I am Driving to Worldcon in 2009!

[jeffreyab]

Also I won't need a passport, but Americans will if they want to return home.

Montreal wins the right to host the worldcon for 2009!



This was not unanticipated as Nippon 2007 meant there could be a large number of non-American and faans who like to travel to foreign countries showing their preferences.

Comments

[thebitterguy]

Hopefully this one turns out better than the TorCon did.

[jeffreyab.livejournal.com]

I have a good feeling it will.

[thebitterguy]

Really? I'd heard that the organizers were pretty much the same bunch of people.

[jeffreyab.livejournal.com]

From the looks of the bidcom, the answer is yes and no.

Two of the names ran the Winnipeg worldcon for instance, it has a better rep.

[con-girl.livejournal.com]

The people in power are not the same bunch at all. Yes, there is some overlap but in areas that had no power at TorCon and that is an important distinction. I'd say that only one person who had some power is an overlap. That person was out-of-zie's depth then but has greatly improved and did well at both Boston and Japan in a similar position.

Oh wait. Linda M. did Registration at TorCon. She will almost certainly do Anticipation and Reg worked very well at TorCon. I worked reg. and it was _relaxing_.

[marahsk.livejournal.com]

The people in power are not the same bunch at all. Yes, there is some overlap but in areas that had no power at TorCon

That's not entirely correct. The top level of management is mostly different, but there is significant overlap just under that--much more than one or two people, and those people were Torcon's senior management.

[con-girl.livejournal.com]

I stand by what I said. I think I saw much more of the internal workings than you did and the people on the top held power very, very tightly. Org. charts can only show so much.

As I have said elsewhere there was overlap - but that overlap is overlap that exists from worldcon to worldcon. That's a separate point from the power issue though.

However, I'm realizing that I really don't want to have to go on and on about torcon's issues. I'm sure that Anticipation will have a whole set of different ones, just like every worldcon has. It's sad for torcon that these developed in a way that affected the enjoyment of its members.

[marahsk.livejournal.com]

I stand by what I said.

You're free to do so, but that doesn't change the facts.

I think I saw much more of the internal workings than you did

I find that seriously unlikely. I don't recognize your LJ handle; what did you work on at Torcon?

and the people on the top held power very, very tightly.

That is absolutely true. I wasn't in those circles.

Org. charts can only show so much.

I'm not getting my information from org charts. I was there.

As I have said elsewhere there was overlap - but that overlap is overlap that exists from worldcon to worldcon.

This is the part where we disagree. Linda Ross-Mansfield was on Torcon's Board of Directors. Peter Jarvis was the chair. Robbie Bourget and Terry Fong were Division Heads. Rene Walling, John Mansfield, Eugene Heller, and Bruce Farr were Deputy Division Heads.

Sorry, but that's a lot more than "the overlap that exists from worldcon to worldcon."

However, I'm realizing that I really don't want to have to go on and on about torcon's issues.

I wasn't planning on having a huge debate in someone else's LJ, but I wanted to get the facts out for anyone who might be interested in reading them.